Comments on: FAQ for Beginners (Volume-I) http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/ Life is about Freedom and Sharing Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:58:15 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Manish http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-783 Manish Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:01:48 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-783 This is written from scratch. I can only laugh at you. I have written this post after guys at my college had lots of mis-conceptions of OSS This is written from scratch. I can only laugh at you.

I have written this post after guys at my college had lots of mis-conceptions of OSS

]]> By: lol http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-771 lol Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:33:18 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-771 Why don't you tell your friend anomit to see this page of yours. You're also copy pasting information that is available at several tech sites. Why don’t you tell your friend anomit to see this page of yours. You’re also copy pasting information that is available at several tech sites.

]]> By: Manish http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-330 Manish Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:11:25 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-330 Vikas, I too understand we don't gain anything by these naming controversies. That time can be used constructively for even better purposes. BTW Torvals used the GNU tools for building Linux, so in that sense, GNU project deserves credit. Vikas,

I too understand we don’t gain anything by these naming controversies. That time can be used constructively for even better purposes.

BTW Torvals used the GNU tools for building Linux, so in that sense, GNU project deserves credit.

]]> By: vikas chauhan http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-327 vikas chauhan Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:34:37 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-327 Manish, that was a really good article.. I am fed with all that bullshit covering GNU Linux naming controversies.I too think GNU should be given credit, but regarding name, its just waste of time.For me Linux just works fine.The arguments of fork.daemon are quite right to some extent.But I have no problems calling it by alternative name GNU/Linux, as GNU people too should be given some credit , they rightly deserve.For general distros GNU/Linux is fine. Manish, that was a really good article..

I am fed with all that bullshit covering GNU Linux naming controversies.I too think GNU should be given credit, but regarding name, its just waste of time.For me Linux just works fine.The arguments of fork.daemon are quite right to some extent.But I have no problems calling it by alternative name GNU/Linux, as GNU people too should be given some credit , they rightly deserve.For general distros GNU/Linux is fine.

]]> By:   How to learn Linux - Part I — Linux Users Group Manipal http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-283   How to learn Linux - Part I — Linux Users Group Manipal Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:01:58 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-283 [...] getting started please read these two FAQ:   FAQ 1 and FAQ [...] [...] getting started please read these two FAQ:   FAQ 1 and FAQ [...]

]]> By: fork.daemon http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-281 fork.daemon Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:50:11 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-281 GNU was not required to build the kernel, the kernel was independant of the GNU, the gnu tools were used only for compilation. GNU/Linux is agreeable if the distribution is made by GNU else it is just stupid. there are embedded distributions of Linux that do not use any GNU tool. would you still call them GNU Linux? These distribuions only live on the kernel, busybox and usually some tool made by someone.. None of them comes from GNU. I know this is stupid GNU-Linux war started by RMS almost as soon as Linux started gaining fame. But the point is we and he should probably realise that trying to force everyone to think like him doesnot gain either GNU or Linux or the Open Source Moment as a whole. Instead of spending more time trying to justify what is what, we should try to develop better tools rather than play catchup with the other big shots.. we should realise the long war is only going to benefit our enemies. GNU was not required to build the kernel, the kernel was independant of the GNU, the gnu tools were used only for compilation.

GNU/Linux is agreeable if the distribution is made by GNU else it is just stupid. there are embedded distributions of Linux that do not use any GNU tool. would you still call them GNU Linux? These distribuions only live on the kernel, busybox and usually some tool made by someone.. None of them comes from GNU.

I know this is stupid GNU-Linux war started by RMS almost as soon as Linux started gaining fame. But the point is we and he should probably realise that trying to force everyone to think like him doesnot gain either GNU or Linux or the Open Source Moment as a whole. Instead of spending more time trying to justify what is what, we should try to develop better tools rather than play catchup with the other big shots.. we should realise the long war is only going to benefit our enemies.

]]> By: Manish http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-280 Manish Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:15:31 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-280 What is see is a GNU and Linux war. It was due to the GNU tools that Linus and his team was able to build this top quality kernel. It was Linux kernel which filled up the gap in 1991 when all tools were ready but kernel was still missing. Atleast some credits. After all its personal belief not to call it. This GNU/Apache/Perl/Python/PHP/Mysql/Sendmail/Linux doesnt make sense! I can add more, we are talking of low level system softwares. Interpreters and new languages may be a good candidate to be included in this / separated list still they all depend on the kernel and even those interpreters need a compiler to be compiled. RMS may be a frustated guy for you, but it was he who made a kickstart. He was a strong advocate of Free Software, due to which I use all software's so freely. Am a free bird! What is see is a GNU and Linux war. It was due to the GNU tools that Linus and his team was able to build this top quality kernel.
It was Linux kernel which filled up the gap in 1991 when all tools were ready but kernel was still missing. Atleast some credits. After all its personal belief not to call it.

This GNU/Apache/Perl/Python/PHP/Mysql/Sendmail/Linux doesnt make sense! I can add more, we are talking of low level system softwares. Interpreters and new languages may be a good candidate to be included in this / separated list still they all depend on the kernel and even those interpreters need a compiler to be compiled.

RMS may be a frustated guy for you, but it was he who made a kickstart. He was a strong advocate of Free Software, due to which I use all software’s so freely. Am a free bird!

]]> By: fork.daemon http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-279 fork.daemon Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:27:45 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-279 Completely Disagree with your definition of Open Source. Open Source Definition(http://opensource.org/docs/osd) clearly states the the OSS License must allow modifications and derived works and that it should be distributed as the same license as the original. Also an OSS Software has to be free in terms that no royalty fee can be charged for it. You need to get certain peices of knowledge right and from proper sources. Also if Linux should be called GNU/Linux just because Linux filled GNU's missing Gap, then i think it should be better called as GNU/Apache/Perl/Python/PHP/Mysql/Sendmail/Linux just because all the other projects mentioned have equally contributed to the success of Linux and they should even be given the same respect. Note that none of the other tools are from GNU nor do they use the GNU GPL license. Terms like LAMP much better describe them. The GNU/Linux argument seems more like RMS's frustration at Linux's success at what he was trying to acheive for over 12 years. Linus did that in a shorter timeframe. This may be an interesting thing to read: http://linux4u.jinr.ru/usoft/WWW/LJ/issue30/issue30.html#ftp30 Completely Disagree with your definition of Open Source. Open Source Definition(http://opensource.org/docs/osd) clearly states the the OSS License must allow modifications and derived works and that it should be distributed as the same license as the original.

Also an OSS Software has to be free in terms that no royalty fee can be charged for it. You need to get certain peices of knowledge right and from proper sources.

Also if Linux should be called GNU/Linux just because Linux filled GNU’s missing Gap, then i think it should be better called as GNU/Apache/Perl/Python/PHP/Mysql/Sendmail/Linux just because all the other projects mentioned have equally contributed to the success of Linux and they should even be given the same respect. Note that none of the other tools are from GNU nor do they use the GNU GPL license. Terms like LAMP much better describe them. The GNU/Linux argument seems more like RMS’s frustration at Linux’s success at what he was trying to acheive for over 12 years. Linus did that in a shorter timeframe.

This may be an interesting thing to read: http://linux4u.jinr.ru/usoft/WWW/LJ/issue30/issue30.html#ftp30

]]> By: Manish http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-247 Manish Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:03:20 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-247 @gaganpreet Yeah, that's one format, blame it to real licenses... @gaganpreet

Yeah, that’s one format, blame it to real licenses…

]]> By: gaurav http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-233 gaurav Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:34:34 +0000 http://manishtech.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/faq-for-beginners-volume-i/#comment-233 kool n perfect answers tyhank you very much i think i got the same disease i.e. disease called penguinista i m in love wid linux i mean kool n perfect answers

tyhank you very much

i think i got the same disease i.e. disease called penguinista

i m in love wid linux i mean

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